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Post by The Hockey Hitman on Feb 28, 2009 4:31:58 GMT -5
Crosby BashingI officially declare that Sidney Crosby has become the Alex Rodriguez of the National Hockey League...haha checkout that article.
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Post by Zoom Waffles on Feb 28, 2009 12:03:28 GMT -5
funny, they don't mention the possibility that the pens can beat the hawks WITHOUT crosby. Chris Kunitz is my hero.
Seriously though, I'm now prepared to speak ill of Sidney Crosby. The guy has lost a lot of his heart for the game, in my opinion, because he's got the publicity, the C on his jersey, and these injuries. He's so serious on the ice, all the time, I think it really brings down the atmosphere on the bench and in the locker room. From a spectator's point of view, he seems so self-absorbed, or so absorbed into the game, that he's not the guy saying "it's okay boys, we'll get the next one" when they give up a goal. And isn't it the captain who is supposed to be saying that? The one who is always positive, especially in the worst of times?
Watching last night's game, they mentioned how serious Jonathan Toews always is. I wonder if Hawks fans (do we have any?) feel that his seriousness negatively affects the atmosphere on the bench and in the locker room.
It leaves me wondering... would the Penguins be better off without Sidney Crosby?
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Post by Zipper14 on Feb 28, 2009 14:00:31 GMT -5
funny, they don't mention the possibility that the pens can beat the hawks WITHOUT crosby. Chris Kunitz is my hero. Seriously though, I'm now prepared to speak ill of Sidney Crosby. The guy has lost a lot of his heart for the game, in my opinion, because he's got the publicity, the C on his jersey, and these injuries. He's so serious on the ice, all the time, I think it really brings down the atmosphere on the bench and in the locker room. From a spectator's point of view, he seems so self-absorbed, or so absorbed into the game, that he's not the guy saying "it's okay boys, we'll get the next one" when they give up a goal. And isn't it the captain who is supposed to be saying that? The one who is always positive, especially in the worst of times? Watching last night's game, they mentioned how serious Jonathan Toews always is. I wonder if Hawks fans (do we have any?) feel that his seriousness negatively affects the atmosphere on the bench and in the locker room. It leaves me wondering... would the Penguins be better off without Sidney Crosby? I don't think the Penguins would be better off without Sid. He is too young to be the captain though. Crosby is just feeling how any star does when his team is under performing, he's ticked off and feeling the pressure to do better. The captain shouldn't be feeling that way, but Sid doesn't have the experience, so he doesn't yet know how to deal with adversity. The Penguins need at least need one good veteran leader in that room. The older guys in that room like Satan, Gonchar and Sykora have never been known as leaders. I like the interview though. "I don't know who Sidney Crosby is" . I'm still a Crosby fan, but I do think he yaps too much at the ref. Though I think the yapping comes from the pressure he feels to succeed.
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Post by The Hockey Hitman on Feb 28, 2009 14:58:16 GMT -5
My advice to Sid: "Shut your yap, play the game and lead by example."
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Post by fukufuji on Feb 28, 2009 17:57:36 GMT -5
funny, they don't mention the possibility that the pens can beat the hawks WITHOUT crosby. Chris Kunitz is my hero. Seriously though, I'm now prepared to speak ill of Sidney Crosby. The guy has lost a lot of his heart for the game, in my opinion, because he's got the publicity, the C on his jersey, and these injuries. He's so serious on the ice, all the time, I think it really brings down the atmosphere on the bench and in the locker room. From a spectator's point of view, he seems so self-absorbed, or so absorbed into the game, that he's not the guy saying "it's okay boys, we'll get the next one" when they give up a goal. And isn't it the captain who is supposed to be saying that? The one who is always positive, especially in the worst of times? Watching last night's game, they mentioned how serious Jonathan Toews always is. I wonder if Hawks fans (do we have any?) feel that his seriousness negatively affects the atmosphere on the bench and in the locker room. It leaves me wondering... would the Penguins be better off without Sidney Crosby? I don't think the Penguins would be better off without Sid. He is too young to be the captain though. Crosby is just feeling how any star does when his team is under performing, he's ticked off and feeling the pressure to do better. The captain shouldn't be feeling that way, but Sid doesn't have the experience, so he doesn't yet know how to deal with adversity. The Penguins need at least need one good veteran leader in that room. The older guys in that room like Satan, Gonchar and Sykora have never been known as leaders. I like the interview though. "I don't know who Sidney Crosby is" . I'm still a Crosby fan, but I do think he yaps too much at the ref. Though I think the yapping comes from the pressure he feels to succeed. I thought the pens shot themselves in the foot last year benching Gary Roberts in the cup final. Next to Hossa he was one of their best players. And then to let him go in the off season. I agree one of the things this team is missing are some more capable veteran character role players, especially with such a young capitain. I think Cidny will level out in the next few years and be a great respected player. He got too much too fast and his heart and attitude need to catch up and mature. For not he is certainly the popular target of ridicule.
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Post by Zoom Waffles on Feb 28, 2009 19:26:03 GMT -5
i think gonchar does okay as the lead-by-example type guy, but i'd agree that there really isn't a good voice in there. cooke brings a pretty good vibe, and hopefully kunitz can help with that too.
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Post by Shredded Red on Mar 1, 2009 23:25:21 GMT -5
I've never really been a Crosby fan. I'm not hating on the superstar either. In some way he kind of reminds me of Jagr. A great player who plays hard when he wants to, but complains when things don't go his way. He's a great player, but he's always seemed to be subversively smug to me. He's not outwardly arrogant, but you can tell he has to make a strong effort to not appear that way.
I know he's young and he's got a lot of expectation and pressure heeped on his shoulders, and I'm sure it doesn't feel good that he's the "face" of the NHL even though he's outplayed nightly by the likes of Malkin his team mate, and his "rival" Ovechkin.....and perhaps he'll mature past that and become "the next one" as he was hailed to be. But personally I don't see him breaking Gretzky records, and I don't see him bringing the Pens a dynasty. I don't think he's going to be a Penguin for that long actually. I think he's going to run into problems and ultimately end up traded.
As far as him being the face of the NHL....I think the league needs to rethink their approach because he isn't nearly as popular as Ovechkin even in non-hockey circles. Ovechkin's spirit and feel good nature have made him extremely popular (well, except with Don Cherry). He may be Russian, but he plays with heart in a way that is appealing to Americans. The Redneck country folk love him down here in Kentucky. Not sure why, but anytime I bring up being a hockey fan to a die hard Wildcat Basketball fan all they ever ask about is Ovechkin.
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Post by Zoom Waffles on Mar 2, 2009 0:14:23 GMT -5
i hear about ovechkin all the time from my resident Rams fan at work. he's definitely getting around courtesy of sportscenter's top 10 plays.
not to get too psychoanalytical on crosby, but i bet he was raised from birth to be 'the next one'. his whole childhood probably revolved around hockey, and he was probably taught to be the ideal nhl posterboy from the very beginning. there's an interview with him on youtube at age 15 or something, and he's the exact same, down to business, no personality, no passion kind of guy he is now. i should say no passion... just no fun. it's interesting -- i wonder if the son of a former near-pro is at a disadvantage? daddy living vicariously through his son?
who knows.
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